Saturn Astra pricing
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The cheapest one will be the XE model of the 5 door version at $15 995 with a 5 speed manual.
It will go up to $19 820 for a XR version of the 3 door. Plus options.
You could compare this to a Honda Civic.
Where you can get a DX Sedan for $16 405.
And an EX Coupe for $18 700.
The Astra seems pretty competitive.
Amazing that GM can do it, and Ford keeps claiming they could never sell the “new” Focus in the US.
“It would be too expensive”…
VERY nice looking car. Looks like Saturn is gonna keep the momentum theyve gotten. This will be a hit. Rethink success hahaha
The only problem I see is the Autobox is still that antique 4 speed hydromatic.
You could compare this to a Honda Civic.
Yes, but the Astra looks so much nicer inside and out.
Forgot to include this in my last post:
Amazing that GM can do it, and Ford keeps claiming they could never sell the “new” Focus in the US.
“It would be too expensive”…
That is such a damned good point I’m glad somebody finally made. Ford is full of sh*t.
Vince – how much is GM making on each Astra import?
Do you even know? Is GM importing this as a loss leader considering that the Ion was such a poorly received automobile and at this point it doesn’t matter to lose money?
I’m patiently awating a Redline version with 200+ hp.
well,vince,,, if ya add the upgraded stereo to this car(xe with automatic..the 3 door?)…. it’s well over 20,000 dollars, past the top line Civic, even, but from what I read and heard, it will not be getting Civic-like upper 30’s MPG(or resale?).
I had heard 18K would be tops..but now…PS: Why is the automatic upgrade on the 3 door $1,400 dollars?
Most i have heard for any automatic these days is 800- maybe 1000 tops!
Someone is ripping someone else off(GM ripping off customers…. with a $1,400 dollar automatic tranny option).
No Thanks.
May test drive one… but I can go to Scion and get the tC for less cash, with the features I want( and it does get 32-34MPG hwy with automatic, and I Know resale values are high… mine at 75K miles, 3 years old, is KBB 10,500-11,500…not sure about black book, but probably 11-12K. Ford almost did a double take-the salesman-when he checked in April, when we thought about a Fusion, and our tC as a trade-in…he would have Paid Us Money… we would have made money on the trade in! Let me see this Astra do that in 3 years, with 75K miles on it).
140HP = tC with 160HP(in MPG), but cost more?
Not in my driveway.
vince even if ya don’t post this… that’s cool…
just tired of getting gouged these days… why not build it at Shanghai(GM’s Chiense partner, same group who builds the V6’s for the Equinox)and sell it for 15K loaded vs 20-21K?
Sure would help!
GM will loose money with each one they sell. The profit margin on the Astra is negative. Don’t know how competitive this will be with a 1.8L engine.
Doesn’t mean they’re making any money off it. I hope they are, but given the exchange rates I’d be surprised.
Why don’t they just start building it wherever they were building the Ion?
Isn’t the Mazda 3 the same chassis as the euro focus? If so, why can’t Mazda just build the focus for ford and sell them here?
“Why don’t they just start building it wherever they were building the Ion?”
The next gen Astra due in a couple years will be built here in the States.
I think this vehicle will be great. While their profit margin isn’t going to be as high, they could possibly sell a bunch. If you ask me it sounds like it is a bit too much money though.
MR.
It’s been publicized that GM is going to just break even on the Astra. What this will do is determine if this car is worth the tooling expense of building it stateside. I predict that this car will be a homerun and will help establish Saturn as a real import fighter. When I look at Saturn’s showroom today compared to how depressing it was three years ago, it’s like night and day. Saturn used to be a joke, just like Hyundai and Cadillac. Now they are real players again.
Why does everyone think that the Scion Tc gets 32-34 mpg w/auto when it is rated now 23/31 mpg w/auto and the new 08 ratings will have it at 21/29. This incidentally will be the SAME rating for 08 that the 2.2L in this car will probably get(assuming it is similar to the Cobalt in size/weight). I really get tired of the Toyota idiots thinking their cars get soooooooooooooo much better mileage than anything else……go look at fueleconomy.gov to figure it out for yourself.
What’s “amazing” is that GM is going to LOSE money for every Astra they sell in the US. At least Ford won’t lose any money because they won’t be importing the current Euro Focus here.
GM made just enough changes to the front bumper to verify this car as a Saturn, the Opel version looks better with subtle difference on the air intakes.
BUT, it already looks so much better than the Ion (that probably isn’t really a comparison) and the “new” old Focus.
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Why does everyone think that the Scion Tc gets 32-34 mpg w/auto when it is rated now 23/31 mpg w/auto and the new 08 ratings will have it at 21/29. This incidentally will be the SAME rating for 08 that the 2.2L in this car will probably get(assuming it is similar to the Cobalt in size/weight). I really get tired of the Toyota idiots thinking their cars get soooooooooooooo much better mileage than anything else……go look at fueleconomy.gov to figure it out for yourself.
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OBviouslyk, YOU DID NOT READ MY POST ABOUT MY-OUR THREE YEAR OLD tC, or you would not have prattled on in such a manner. What are you, UAW?
Seriously. I OWN ONE….. automatic, spouse drivesw it nearly 130 miles PER DAY to work…..nearly 90K miles now, at 3 years old.
EPA MPG = garbage regs to me.REAL WORLD, WHAT I GET< IS WHAT I GET< NOT WHAT SOME BOOK SAYS.Got It?
I have a 04 Sonata…. EPA says 27 Hwy.. I get maybe 25… got 27-28 2 times in 3 years, all road trip, 200 miles one way, ON Cruiser ctrl.
WE GET 32 MPG, on a 130 miles per day… here’s the breakdown.
55MPH, country roads…. no stopping, 30 miles…..(that’s half of the trip, almost )..
65MPH< hwy......23 miles.... in city....about 12-13... all one way...
so, 20-30 % is maybe city… 70-80 % is all hwy, 55 to 65 MPH(let’s call it 60 MPH combined…AVG out).
WE GET 32-34 MPG. If you can handle the truth, go to another site, run by the UAW.
Thanks.
Have a great weekend, AND READ PEOPLE’S COMMENTS BEFORE GOING CRAZY again.
PS: If you would bother to do some more resach on the tC, the 05 was “29 MPG hwy”…. the 06 was “30”(iirc), and now the 07 is “31 MPG hwy”.. SAME ENGINE< CAR< TRANNY since 2004(the 05's came out late August of 04...LOOK IT UP).
I hate people who tell me what I get on my car, MPG wise…
EVER HEAR OF “MPG may vary due ot driving experiences?”
ROLL EYES>
Hmmmmm. I heard Saturn’s site has this info, AND, the std and optional equpitment list up for viewing…
as for the guy yelling about some Got fuel regs… LOL…..
whatever….
If you slam your brakes to stop, floor the gas pedal to “rabbit start” from every stop light, and drive 85 on the expressways… yeah, your MPG will be lower in ANY CAR than if you drive like a non-road-rager.
If you drive 70-80% hwy(55 on up to 70, in most states)… you will achieve better MPG than someone driving 70-80% City Driving.
The fuel std book is a General guide, not a “written in stone” guide.
If my rant earlier offended you, 1129am anonymous poster…. ya ticked me off real good, so I fired back.
Like I said earlier, when you drive 30 miles 55 mph, NO Stopping, then hit the expressway at 65MPH for around 23 miles….
then 12 or so miles of “city”(45 MPH, stop maybe every mile, or 1/5 miles…. to us, that’s “city”, to us country folks), yes, the tC gets 32-34MPG combined. And, as I have stated…
our EPA sticker said” 29 MPG AVERAGE HWY” for our 05 tC.
(if you read the fine print on those window stickers, they can go up to 24, low as 27 hwy….for the tC).
Depends on your driving conditions, how you drive, what type of driving you do.
This is how I should have relied to Mr bash Toyota….
I was NOT Attacking GM.. I WANTED this 3 door, but not for 20-21K, and no chance to argue the prices down.
I don’t care if it flies for 20-21K.
I don’t care if it’s Toyota, even…
have owend a 77 Camaro, 87 Spectrum(Uggh..), 90 Sentra xe(90 hp/97 torque… EPA said 31MPG hwy… LOL.. I got 37 MPG avg, 55 MPH hwy, 35 miles, NO CITY stopping…3 lights in one town, on the hwy and that was it… and this was with a a car around 2,300 lbs, automatic, 3 speed)MPG MAY VARY….
87 200 sx, 99 sonata GLS V6, 01 Tiburon, 05 tC, 04 Sonata GLS V6.
There ya go, GM, Hyundai, Nissan, Toyota.
Looking at Suzuki next( check out the upcoming SX4 sporty sedan, supposedly stretched out version of the small, sporty car everyone craves in USA, except UAW types, lol)…who knows?
Maybe if this sells, and GM builds it in Tennessee(Or Mexico, even)… and lowers MSRP by 2-3 K… I’d consider it.
PS: Where did you get your “2.2 L”from? Got a link to back it up?
Oh, it’s on SATURNS SITE… 140HP, 2.0 Liter(think it’s 2.0…maybe be 1.8, but NO 2.2).
How come the Cobalt gets 34 MPG hwy, larger car and engine.. and this car most likely wont’ get but 32 hwy?
PS: Vince… sory to have wnet off 2 times..but people make me angry, when they quote a booklet, and NEVER OWNED the car they flame.NO EXPEARIENCE with the “flamed car” at all…a REAL OWNER can tell.
take it easy.
I have liked all the new saturns that have been coming lately. This design seems a little dated to me, not quite as nice as the other stuff. It reminds me of something you would have seen 10 years ago.
VINCE!!
WHERE IS THE COOLANT GAUGE ON THE ASTRA? THEY LEFT IT OUT!! civics, corollas, and even focus have coolant gauges!!
Ford is chasing their own tail! I have to commend GM for actually putting some decent effort into their cars nowadays. The day of the disposable GM product of no more! With Chrysler only excelling in fleet rental sales and ford still making SUV interiors from 1987 in 2007, GM actually has a fighting chance. I never thought I would see the day, but they were the first and only ones to get a reality check!
I find it hilarous that when Ford initially estimated the redesign of the American (OLD) Focus, it was supposed to cost a lot less than importing the European version, but in the end they went well over budget reskinning (a grotesque one that that!) an OLD platform. So bringing the Euro focus over would have saved them money in the end. GM was smart from learning from this blossoming mistake by Ford.
I used to be the Anti-GM advocate, but I’ve resigned! I’m waiting for my Saturn Astra Red-Line! What a way to kill GTI sales!
To the guy who posted the abnomally long rant – people won’t read your comments if they are too long. I didn’t even bother to read once I saw how long it was.